JavaScript is disabled. Three forms of carbines were made in quantity in the Model 1888. There shouldnt be a problem, all the German conversions SHOULD have a prominent S stamped on the receiver. inch for the round nose and 17.5 tons for the pointed nose. and now, have fun! I'm thinking something like 8mm rem mag might even be a possibility. During the following 50 years, the rifle and its Hanyang 88 copy were used in the Xinhai Revolution, the Chinese Civil War and the War of Resistance against Japan and proved more than adequate against the Japanese Arisaka Type 38 rifle, though the latter was newer by 30 years. BORE IS DARK WITH WORN RIFLING. A .366" bullet beats a .338". I need a retirement fund. Hoosier Gun Works Online Catalog Not all of our inventory is listed, more coming in Daily RIFLE, AND FULL SIZE SHOT GUN LENGTH SHOTGUN STOCKS LISTED BELOW. Stick with the factory loads. Everything good and modern occurred after that, they believe, and nothing much before. We're also planning on running streams this week for Shot Show so keep an eye out. Suitable only for short range hunting? .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} Unlike many German service rifles before and after, it was not developed by Mauser but the arms commission, and Mauser was one of the few major arms manufacturers in Germany that did not produce Gewehr 88s.[3]. Repetiergewehr M13 - Austro-Hungarian Army Designation. 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) mauser hanyang 88 8mm commissioner gewehr 1888 c&r as-is osgah305 littleton, co 80120: used: 5/4/2022: $380.00 : other model 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) gewehr 88 8mm mauser spandau 1889 (read) howard, ks 67349: used: 4/12/2022: $416.13 : 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) 1888 gewehr 88 chinese mauser b14965 rw mount morris, il 61054: used . If I get a new barrel that also opens up another problem. In response the German Army's Rifle Testing Commission developed the Gewehr 88 which was adopted for service in 1888. Gew 88's were re-serialized by the army capturing them in some rare cases (i.e. I have one of these nice rifle. A rebore job will be about $200. Owned this Type 99 for 16 years. The Gewehr 88 (commonly called the Model 1888 Commission Rifle) was a late 19th-century German bolt action rifle, adopted in 1888. A LW barrel easily that. let's say 2 years down the road you want a new stock with the turk, it's just a matter of what material and profile you like. The hole in the bottom of the rifle is often covered with a small piece of sheet metal. Any idea on where I could get a 9.3 barrel? Failures related to case seperations or high pressures are more dangerous in the pre-98's than in the 98's, they are much more so in the pre-91's. Lothar walther, Douglas and Shilen make barrels and I'm sure most other reknowned makers do too. you may not have the rifle forever, so some forethought as to if your kids might shoot the gun someday might skew your build details. Well if you are talking 600 yard shots that the average hunter with his low skill level that has no business taking then the answer is yes. Pictures are too poor for me to tell if it is or not but it looks like it may be. The result was the famous Mannlicher-Schnauer Model 1903, a design that set the standard for quality hunting rifles for the next 70 years. In 1898 a Mauser design was adopted, the Gewehr 98, which was the culmination of a series of Mauser models in the 1890s. .LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH{fill:var(--newRedditTheme-actionIcon);height:18px;width:18px}.LalRrQILNjt65y-p-QlWH rect{stroke:var(--newRedditTheme-metaText)}._3J2-xIxxxP9ISzeLWCOUVc{height:18px}.FyLpt0kIWG1bTDWZ8HIL1{margin-top:4px}._2ntJEAiwKXBGvxrJiqxx_2,._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{vertical-align:middle}._1SqBC7PQ5dMOdF0MhPIkA8{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center} I have a few in different configuration. Otherwise lawsuit. As a result, the number of minor variations seems endless. While the majority were chambered for the standard military 857 cartridge (usually the original .318 bullet, rather than the later .323) they were also offered in pure hunting cartridges like the 957. $795.00 Compare MITCHELL'S MAUSERS 98K - C52673 The stock has a small repair behind the rear tang screw. It must be emphasized that these are pre-War figures, and that arms and ammunition made during the War may vary. ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} Haenel 7mm Commission 88 Sporter. The invention of smokeless powder in the late 19th century immediately rendered all of the large-bore black powder rifles then in use obsolete. 1888 rifles can be dangerous because the sharp pointed (Spitzer) bullet ammunition intended for the later models, will chamber. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} What made the German import worth 50 percent more than this state-of-the-art lever rifle? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Appreciate the understanding! This rifle is in pretty good shape externally, save for a splinter out of the forend on the left side, which I shall have fixed. Nice commercial 88 sporting rifle they were manufactured until right after WW1. In general the Chamber Pressure is listed at 21-tons per sq. Amberg GEW88. In the beginning of the 20th century China bought for a second time a large number of original Gewehr 88 rifles. I'm including the 88 in there even though it is not technically a Mauser. Those suitable for the then standard .323" bullet S cartridge were stamped with a Z-prefix registration number, while those deemed suitable only for the limited standard old .318" bullet Patrone 88 cartridge got a D-prefix number. Czech Sellier & Bellot makes excellent high-power ammunition hunting ammunition for the S-bore 8mm Mausers, good for deer, bear and elk when fired from the modern K98k rifles.. Of course one can handload for the Mauser to get optimal performance from the 8mm S bore Mauser. The designer was Louis Schlegelmilch chief gunsmith of Spandau Arsenal who perfected the mauser M1871 bolt adding two locking lugs in front of it. One like yours one with a claw mounts scope. Note also that the Austrian 8mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer is an entirely different cartridge from either one of the German. This article appeared in the 2016 Gun Digest annual. I've casually thought about what would have to be done to create an accurately rifled bore, and I've concluded that I'm not going to go there. It has a receiver with a "split bridge" (i.e., the bolt passes through the receiver and locks in front of the rear bridge); a rotating bolt head; and the characteristic Mannlicher-style "packet loading" or "en-bloc" system in which cartridges are loaded into a steel carrier (an en bloc clip) which is inserted into the magazine, where it holds the cartridges in alignment over a spring. 1b)", http://www.wildlife-baldus.com/download/Maji_Maji.pdf, http://www.fhhljx.com/thefreelibrary/Russian+rifles+of+the+great+war,+revolution+%26+civil+war--part+I%3A-a0391733875, "Weapons Of The Greco-Turkish War Part 2", "Three members of the Ethiopian Zabagna, or gendarmerie, photographed about the time of the Italian invasion in the fall of 1935 [721 x 807]: HistoryPorn", "Repblica Armas Infantera Fusiles", "The rifles of Israel 1948-1980 - Israel Military Forum", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gewehr_1888&oldid=1122884205, Weapons and ammunition introduced in 1888, Articles with German-language sources (de), All articles with bare URLs for citations, Articles with bare URLs for citations from March 2022, Articles with PDF format bare URLs for citations, Short description is different from Wikidata, Pages using infobox weapon with unknown parameters, Articles with unsourced statements from January 2021, Articles with unsourced statements from November 2022, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. There are lots of Mauser 98s out there at minimal cost. This is something we need to do to continue using our email system. My guess is the that the old German gunsmiths made a spacer to cover the threads or just cut the old threaded part of the barrel shoud off and used that. HideTV Updates and Shot Show Streams Coming This Week. These in 7.92x57i. That way the use the existing chamber and just recut the neck & throat. For sporting purposes, the most significant by far was the German Commission rifle of 1888. @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} Dont try to shoot modern 8x57 in it until you figure it out. By That said, it sounds like you are adamant about using the 88 as a basis for a sporter. China first bought Gewehr 88 rifles for the First Sino-Japanese War in 18941895 and after that started production of the unlicensed Hanyang 88 copy. This system was used in almost all Mannlicher designs and derivatives, and while it allows for speedy reloading, it also creates an entry point for dirt. This tube was intended to increase accuracy by preventing the barrel from directly contacting the stock, but in practice it increased the risk of rusting by providing a space for water to be trapped if the rifle was exposed to harsh conditions. The bolt assembly required 174 operations. Kyle, Send me your name & address so I can take out some insurance on you. The jist of the discussion was using the existing rifeling as a guide. Military Firearm Restoration Corner. This was primairly due to the deterent coating not adhering to the powder flakes, thus the burning rate amounted to a detonation as opposed to a controlled burn. 14th December 2020 gewehr 88 sporter. This began by adapting a Swiss design, resulting in the Patrone 88 or M/88 of 1888, an 8mm rimless "necked" cartridge (bullet diameter 8.08mm/.318 in) loaded with an 8.08mm (.318 in) 14.6 g (226 gr) round-nose bullet propelled by a single-base smokeless powder. The difficult part would be figuring-out how to rifle it. don't bother messing around with the 88 if your goal is a cheap hunting gun. Have also seen them mfg by C.G. However, this rifle soon had to be converted to fire the new Spitzer round that Germany adopted after the turn of the century. It's a Gew 88 actioned sporting rifle that we reportedly taken home as a sourvenier by a GI after WWII. I have an extra Gew receiver sitting around that I may actually try heat treating. The 7.92X57 is a powerful round when loaded correctly, but neither it nor the 06 are magnum calibers, so follow directions!! Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Now yer makin sense!!! Looks pretty neat. One like yours one with a claw mounts scope. OP, be very careful if you try to shoot this thing. The rifle was adopted during a period of rapid development in firearms technology, and marked Germany's shift to a smokeless powder. Model classification and certifiable originality are the backbone of gun collecting, and with Haenel-Mannlichers and other civilian rifles based on the Commission action, this is almost impossible. Payment Condition Barrel was marked V. Chr. HAENEL. Guns, hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, good beer and things that make people think. Fahrradfabrik] in Suhl on a Gewehr Model 1888 Commission action. [11] Some of the ex-UVF rifles were used by Home Guard in the United Kingdom in 1940. !. A reason for this is that US ammunition makers fear the lawsuits that would follow if S bore (.323) Spitzer bullets were fired in the older unconverted J-bore Commission 88 rifles of the old J (.318) bore size. It was a superior replacement using the same ammunition with a stronger powder charge. A brush gun is for navigating through brushy conditions not shooting brush! It is loaded to very low pressures and in my Husky 96 it is very accurate. [15] These were likely intended for sale in South America, where use of the 757mm cartridge was widespread. To settle a patent infringement claim by Steyr-Mannlicher, Germany contracted the Austro-Hungarian company to be one of the manufacturers of Gewehr 88s, and Mannlicher together with Otto Schnauer derived from the Mauser-Schlegelmilch design a whole family of turn-bolt actions, the last of which was serially produced until 1970s. For purposes of comparison, the official Mauser specifications on the two cartridges and on the Gew. [12] Ethiopean rifles (some ex-UVF rifles also found their way there) also saw action during the East African Campaign. . The Scope is a Russian PEM Sniper scope, it isn't uncommon to see them used on sporterized German rifles. It was the German service rifle from 1898 to 1935, when it was replaced by the Karabiner 98k, a shorter weapon using the same basic design. (SOME German hunting rifles today are made with the old J- bore dimensions, but that doesnt concern us in the States). deepen the grooves to the desired bore diameter. I drink a bit! I'd love to be able to do it myself! As a result, the lugs are further back than in genuine Mauser designs. It is stunning. This bolt was straight as in the standard rifle. Generally now known as Haenel-Mannlichers, these German bolt-action rifles were not cheap. I'd be curious to see some pictures of the scope and markings on it. Without it the front of the action and back of the barrel aren't supported and there is only one screw holding the entire thing to the stock! .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} If it was me I'd buy a nice Lothar Walther contoured barrel and consider myself WAY ahead of the game. For this reason the Gewehr 88 is also known as the "commission rifle," or "reichsgewehr"." This is a re-barreled sporterized Gew. You'd have to build a dedicated machine to do this. ._1sDtEhccxFpHDn2RUhxmSq{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-flow:row nowrap;flex-flow:row nowrap}._1d4NeAxWOiy0JPz7aXRI64{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}.icon._3tMM22A0evCEmrIk-8z4zO{margin:-2px 8px 0 0} It is sometimes described as a Mauser with Mannlicher features, and sometimes the reverse. Honestly, you can find a very nice Husky M46 already chambered in 9.3x57 for less than you'll spend on a conversion. I bet you could rig something up to produce a nice smooth bore. I do prefer the 757 any day over both of them. Try and get into better lighting and take some pictures of it. 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